In this episode, we speak with Tiffany Benjamin about her journey from IU Bloomington to Harvard Law School, her career beyond, and how she cultivated resiliency along the way.
Tiffany Benjamin is senior director of social impact and president of the Eli Lilly and Company Foundation, where she manages the company’s corporate social responsibility efforts, disaster relief efforts, global health initiatives, environmental, social, and governance strategy, and community civic engagement.
In 2020, she led the company’s global philanthropic efforts in response to the COVID-19 pandemic as well as its philanthropic efforts to address racial inequity in the United States. Prior to this role, she served in various roles within the legal function, including senior director of litigation and legal compliance; assistant general counsel for the assistant corporate secretary; and anti-corruption counsel and legal counsel on the company’s privileged internal investigation process.
Prior to joining Lilly, Benjamin served as senior investigative counsel for the Democratic staff of the U.S. House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee, working on investigations into national matters including the Deepwater Horizon oil spill, the Walmart-Mexico bribery allegations, the 2012 fungal meningitis outbreak, and the passage of the Affordable Care Act. Before joining the committee, she worked as an attorney in the D.C. office of King and Spalding, handling white-collar matters and government investigations.
In addition to her bachelor’s degree in journalism and political science from IU, Benjamin has a law degree from Harvard Law School. She serves on the board of Visit Indy, the Greater Indianapolis Progress Committee, the 2024 NBA All-Star Game Committee, and the Kennedy King Memorial Initiative.
Benjamin lives in Indianapolis with her husband, three children, and a rambunctious flat-coated retriever.
Participate in Themester 2021 — Resilience
Season 5 of All Careers Considered is produced in conjunction with the College of Arts + Sciences Themester 2021 on Resilience. One way you can participate in Themester is to attend a Themester event.
Daniella: Hey Hoosiers and welcome back to the All Careers Considered Podcast hosted by the Walter Center for Career Achievement, which is the Career Services Center that specifically serve students and alumni in the College of Arts and Sciences at Indiana University Bloomington. We’re on a mission to help you achieve career success by supporting you in your pursuit of impactful experiences, designing your life, sharing your story, and building meaningful connections.
My name is Danielle Feijoo and I’m the Graduate Intern for the Walter center, working with an amazing team of undergraduate students and staff members. We’ll hear from in subsequent episodes of the podcast. You may have heard that you can do anything with the College of Arts and Sciences degree. And we are here to show you that that really is the case by interviewing alumni to ask them where they are now.
Next up is this week’s episode with Tiffany Benjamin, President of the Lilly Foundation and head of social impact, Tiffany leads the team managing corporate social responsibility efforts, environmental, social and governance strategy, as well as the global team facilitating Lilly global health programs. Tiffany graduated from IU Bloomington in 2002 with Bachelor of Arts degrees in journalism and political science.
I had a wonderful time learning about Tiffany’s career path for resiliency and how her College of Arts and Sciences degrees have influenced her life. I really enjoyed our conversation and I believe you will find many nuggets of wisdom in this conversation. Enjoy the episode.
Thank you so much for being here today, Tiffany, on the College of Arts and Sciences, all careers considered podcasts. And congratulations on receiving the 2021 Outstanding Young Alumni Award.
Tiffany: Thank you. I’m super jazzed to be here and I’m really excited about this podcast.
Daniella: Yes, thank you, once again. We’re excited to talk more about your career and our theme this year is resilience. So have some questions that touch on that and your career path.
So to begin, Tiffany, you’ve had a myriad of phenomenal experiences in your professional career, your work as an attorney in Washington DC to helping pass Affordable Care Act, serving as Senior Investigative council for the Democratic staff of the US House of Representatives. And now leading the Eli Lilly and Company Foundation, global philanthropic efforts to address health and racial inequity. You have gone above and beyond to serve those in your community. With that being said, Tiffany, would you like to start off by telling everyone about your current role at the Lilly Foundation and kind of what brought you into that space?
Tiffany: Yeah. So, I am the president of the Eli Lilly and Company Foundation and I also run social impact that Lilly, which means I do all of our community service, philanthropic work, as well as our global health work. So in places like Sub-Saharan Africa and India and China. And I do work to focus on making Indianapolis a better space, in particular, focused on K through 12 education and combating racial inequity. So every day I wake up and I think about how to make the world a better place. And every day I wake up and I pinch myself and I say, I can’t believe they pay me to think about how to make the world a better place and how to change my community and our global community.
Daniella: That is fantastic and we’re so grateful to have you in that space and being called Arts and Science alum. That’s also fantastic. As somebody who is an inclusive and dynamic leader in these spaces and Indianapolis. Can you tell us about what motivated you to pick this industry and choose this field of study?
Tifffany: Yes. So I have always been committed to community service. So my mom is a social worker. She actually went back to school when I was really little. She was a single mom to become a social worker. And she did a lot of really cool things. In particular, she was working with HIV AIDS patients in the eighties when people were still really afraid of HIV AIDS patients.
And so, I learned really early on the value of helping people and being part of a community and empathy. And so throughout my entire career, I’ve always focused on that, right? That’s what brought me to Capitol Hill as I thought. I want to change the world. I want to help pass the Affordable Care Act so that everybody has access to healthcare. And even when I was a practicing lawyer, I had always thought about doing things that were community-minded and changing the world.
One of my internships was to go to the Equal Justice Initiative in Alabama and worked for Bryan Stevenson and do death penalty defense cases. And actually, one of my proudest moments as a lawyer is that while I was there, I worked on a case where a woman was convicted of something she didn’t do and sentenced to life in prison. And I helped them get her out of prison. And actually, she is free and has been free for several years. And a few years ago, the governor of Alabama actually pardoned her. So it’s not even on her record anymore.
And so I had all of these experiences of making a difference, of moving people in the community. And I just kept going with it. So I was a lawyer and I was still doing volunteer work to help people in the community on the side. And when an opportunity came up to spend my days working in philanthropy, thinking about how we address the challenges in our community, in our global world, I said ‘Absolutely, yes!’
And I just wake up every day and think about what are we going to do to change systems, right? To make life better for people and to figure out how we make this system, this country, this Globe, more equitable, more inclusive, and welcoming to everybody.
Daniella: Wow, thank you so much for sharing all that. And it’s fantastic to hear about your work with the Equal Justice Institute. That’s fabulous. I was pretty fun. Bryan Stevenson is a legend. Can you tell us a little bit about what maybe you’ve learned over time about your leadership style in these kinds of spaces where you’re focusing on racial inequity and how to fight, fight for these really important social causes yet.
Tiffany: So, the first thing is, I’m a big listener, right? Like I spend a lot of time with people to understand what matters to them, what fuels them, what they care about. Because my perspective is just my perspective, right? And it’s shaped by my life experience and the places I’ve been and the people I know. And we all have blind spots. And so to me, my leadership style is making sure I understand other people so that I can see what I’m not seeing in the world, right?
I actually have a team that works for me and I try to make sure the team is super different for me instead of picking people who are like me because I want them to say, ‘Well, wait a second. Did you think about this’ or ‘This hit me this way?’ or ‘I felt this about the thing.’
So I think it’s really important to be comfortable with people thinking differently, with people pushing you to be uncomfortable. And if you can do that, then you can have uncomfortable conversations about race. You can have uncomfortable conversations about inequity. You can have uncomfortable conversations that ultimately get to solutions because you’ve taken the time to really listen and care and be focused on kindness and trust. And also not think you’re right all of the time. I’m definitely not right all of the time.
Daniella: Yeah. It’s really important, I believe, as well to it when you are in these spaces of leadership, to be able to pull from different sources and ideas. And your career journey has definitely been a testament to that. I really loved how you also talked about in your philanthropic sort of autobiography, the power of your mom’s story and how that has impacted your career. Are there other people in your life or other motivators that you would kind of pull from that have brought you to this particular current role?
Tiffany: Yeah. I think that for me, there are a billion people, like nobody ever got where they are by themselves. And I’ve been lucky. My mom was a great mom and always focused on education. My grandma and my great grandma and my aunt were phenomenal advocates for me, including like buying me my first Cabbage Patch doll, but also telling me that I could do anything and be anything and they really believed in me. And so family is the place where I start.But the other thing is that they’re just people in my life who have believed in me.
I always tell this story and at the awards yesterday I told the story and I think it’s really important, which is that, I, I didn’t know I actually wanted to go to law school. I took the LSAT because all of the interns at the programs that we’re taking the LSAT. And I, I knew I had good scores, but I didn’t quite know what they were.
And I was in the predecessor to the Hudson Holland scholarship program and they actually had a law student at IU who would counsel students who are sort of interested in law school. And I went to see him and I said, I got these scores and these grades like do you think I can maybe go to IU law school? And he looked at my score to my grades and he said, “Oh, no, you can go a lot of places. Come back. And I will make a list of schools for you.” And I was like, “okay man, I don’t know.”
So I came back and he had this list. And it was very fancy schools including Harvard. And I was like, I don’t know man, settle down. Like, I don’t know anybody who goes to Harvard. Like it’s not a thing — like, that’s the thing you see on TV. Like it’s not a thing real people do. Like like that’s crazy. And he was like apply. And because of him, I applied. Right. And I would never have done it without him. And so he’s the reason I got into law school because I needed someone else to tell me what was possible because I couldn’t see it for myself. So to me, the people who tell you things are possible are the ones that made an impact in my life. And I think they’re the ones that make an impact in everybody’s life. Because your worldview is just yours until someone else tells you, Hey, wait a second, you can do all these other things.
Daniella: Wow, that is incredible. I’m so, so glad that you had somebody that I was able to illuminate all these incredible strengths that you have. And I feel like in your story so far you’ve been able to touch upon these little moments that all string together that have brought you into this really incredible position where you’re working in a global capacity, but also being able to serve people in your local community. So thank you for sharing all that. Kind of backtracking a little bit to your time here in the College of Arts and Sciences at IU Bloomington. Could you talk a little bit about how your journalism and political science degrees, how have those influenced and enhanced your career?
Tiffany: Yeah, So first of all, I love the College of Arts and Sciences, and I loved my time her. So I start as a journalism major. I always thought I would be a print reporter. I fell in love with politics while I was here, and so I added the policy and it was so great first of all, to just be able to test out different classes, right? And be able to figure out this is the thing that fuels me. And that was really great. And that’s one of the things I really appreciate about the College of Arts and Sciences is that I kind of tested out other things like I tested out English and I tested out French and I was like these aren’t my thing. But PoliSci, it spoke to me and I was like, I found this place where I fit. And they’ve done a lot for me and my career.
Frankly, journalism skills and media skills are so valuable everywhere, right? Being a good writer helps you in a million different places. Being able to communicate helps you in a million different places. Being able to ask thoughtful questions makes you good at everything, right? Because that’s the most important thing is can you ask a really good question and then you can figure out what an actual problem is.
And so that gives you a ton. And then politics helps me. Obviously I was on the hill, but the other thing is in the baseline politics is thinking about policy and how you can bring about systemic change. And so my political science background allowed me to think, is this like a tiny problem, or is this a system problem? And how are we going to solve a system problem? And what are the structures that have existed before that built that systemic problem, right? Like you look at the history and then you look at the current, and that’s what PoliSci helps you do.
And so it’s really helped me to think about like, okay, let’s dream big. I think a big solutions not just try to solve this tiny problem, but let’s try to change the world.
Daniella: Thank you guys that is great and I know you’ve touched on this a little bit too, but this social justice framework that you have, it, it’s really, really critical. And I think a lot of young people are trying to figure out their place in the world right now. And with COVID-19, the global pandemic, do you have any advice for students that are we’re starting off here at IU Bloomington in their first year or if they’re getting ready to graduate entering this landscape. And they’re wanting to find these roles where they can make this type of change. Do you have any advice for them?
Tiffany: Yeah. So what I would say is, first of all, change is big and little. So like you can, you can find small things to make a difference. You can join a club or you can find an internship. And all of it matters, right? Like we need everybody to do things to promote change. So I just encourage, first of all, baseline, just like do something, dip your toe in. You don’t have to commit a billion hours to it, right?
The other thing is that the university has a ton of resources in this space. Ask your professors, they’re not scary. Yeah, sometimes they can feel scary. But you can ask them like what’s a good thing to do? Or joining a group and then asking people, Hey, what about this? Or frankly just going on the internet and finding out what you wanna do. And then talking to other people, right? Because they might be like, I know a guy who did this thing. The first step is really just sort of knowing what’s out there.
The other thing that’s most important is to figure out what matters to you and stay committed to it. Because sometimes in life it gets hard, you get stuck on like, am I gotta get my finals done? Am I gonna do all this other thing. What am I gonna do with my life? Like kinda like.
But you have to start out by defining what matters to you. Like. For me. I always think about what matters to me is how to make the world empathetic. Like. That is what drives me all the time. So I make my decisions about what I do with my free time, on what I think will help make the world more empathetic and people should frame what’s the thing that matters to them. And then the work comes.
Daniella: That’s yeah, incredible. I’m I’m glad that you’re able to tell us about a lot of unique ways that students can get involved and interested in supporting their, their community, whether on a local level or a little bit more broadly and how change comes in many different forums. So thank you. And I wanted to bring up, since we are in Hispanic Heritage Month, there is this awesome quote from Dolores Huerta
the Latin, Latina Mexican-American labor leader and civil rights activists.
And it says, a leader as a person that does the work. It’s very simple. It’s a personal choice or people who choose to put in their time and their commitment to do the work. And Tiffany, I was wondering if you could reflect a little bit on this quote and maybe talk about how your journalism and political science degrees kind of are infused in, in maybe what you hear from Dolores.
Tiffany: I love it. I think it’s beautiful. So it’s like a great quote. And you know, as an African American woman, I carry that with me when I do the work that I do. But I think there’s something so powerful about the fact that we have to do the work. Oftentimes we’ll talk about the things — like, that’s very important. Like we need to have conversations, but you have to commit the time and the work to being uncomfortable to looking at hard challenge is and being able to force yourself to keep moving.
I think sometimes people think people like me with the title President are leaders and we are. But you don’t need a title of president to be a leader, right? Like you just have to care about something and keep fighting for it and working for and advocating for it. And that’s something I learned from my Journalism/PoliSci degree, right?
Like I was only 20 and I. Decided I would run to be a delegate to the Democratic National Convention, right? And I just thought like, hey, I can do this. And sometimes you’ll be like, oh, I’m 20, I can’t be a leader. But of course you can! Like, you just have to look for opportunities and then just believe in yourself and then put in the work to do it.
There’s something really powerful about that. And I also just love that. It’s a quote from a woman that defines sort of like how we think about what leadership is and a woman of color, which is kind of the best type of bias, but it’s kinda the best to think about what leadership means and how it comes in so many different forms. And that leadership is about just committing.
Daniella: Yes, I think it’s so powerful as well, that ‘do the work’ piece. So it’s important for students to be able to find those people that are going to uplift them and empower them. And like you mentioned, being a student of color and how different systems will play out in their experience while they’re in the undergraduate space or in their career professor and search.
You know, that can, that can really help you to find, find what you’re really passionate about and be able to discover how you want to play a role in social change. Thank you. You know, Tiffany, in your role as president, you’re leading all these corporate social responsibility efforts, environmental, social and governance strategy in these health programs. So can you talk a little bit about how you’re using your liberal arts degree in those different kind of buckets?
Tiffany: Yeah. So first of all, I get to do a boatload of stuff that’s in the public health space. So I use the critical thinking, the political science parts to think about complicated policy and public health issues every day. Like how can we ensure that people with diabetes are getting good care, right? Those are the kinds of things I think about from a, from a policy standpoint. And then you know, I have to be able to tell the story of why this work is important, right? And so my journalism degree really gives me the opportunity to explain to our employees why it’s important that we be in the community. I’m lucky because the employees really get it, I don’t really have to explain a lot. They’re like, Yes, I want to be there. But why it’s important for us as a company to really make a difference in the world. We have this environmental, social, and governance strategy, which is my opportunity to explain to investors, right? Shareholders like why us being a purpose-driven company is important. And to me, my journalism degree allows me to like, talk to people about that and say like, we have to be on the side of good and we have to be committed to the community.
Because you can’t just be a company that is focused on, on profits. And also, because this is our home and we have to be invested in our, our community and in our globe.
Thank you so much and we touched on this a little bit before. Tiffany, do you have any advice for current IU students as they’re balancing the global pandemic school and looking ahead to their, to their futures.
Tiffany: Yes. So there are a couple of things I would say. The first is be really kind to yourself. Like I feel like sometimes there’s so much stress about like make this decision or that decision or do things this way or that way. Just decisions. It’s not the end of the world. Like if you make one decision, you can just make another one. Like things can change and evolve. And so don’t carry all the stress around decisions. Just try to be your best self and be really, really kind to yourself, right? And everything is not live or die. Some decisions are just decisions, and you could just be like, oh, I thought I was interested in this career and now I’m not and that’s okay.
The other thing I tell students is this time it’s been hard, right? Like there’s real trauma for everybody during this time with COVID, right? Some people didn’t get to go on their summer study abroad or they spent last year doing virtual learning. Or maybe they’re taking their very first class in person for the first time in college this year. They lost an experience that mattered to them. And so that means that there’s real trauma. And it’s really important for everybody to show themselves some grace, not compare like what they’ve gone through to anybody else. But to say like, this has been hard and I deserve the space to grieve that and be sad and then celebrate what’s going forward. But to be gentle to myself and and appreciate that this has been a really hard time for us all.
Daniella: Thank you. I think that’s such an important message for students to hear regardless of where they are on their journey and kind of moving it from there. I’m speaking about resiliency. Could you tell us about what that word means to you in practice and the work you do.
Tiffany: Yeah, So I think what’s really important is failure is actually kind of helpful. I think everybody is always like, running from failure, like they’re always terrified. Oh gosh, if I fail, the whole sky is going to fall. It’s super not, the sky is not going to fall. And in fact, sometimes you fail and you learn more from failure than you ever do from a success. The question is, do you keep moving and did you bother to learn from it, right? Resiliency is falling down. Learning and getting back up, like people often talk about it as falling down and getting back up. But the learning part is super important.
And so for me, you know, we’re trying to impact big things like I’m trying to think about education and change in a really complicated educational system in Indianapolis. So we’re going to try some things. And sometimes they’re going to go well, and sometimes they’re not going to succeed. The real question is, am I going to keep moving and focusing on how do we make kids educational experiences improve when they’re in fourth grade? And that’s what resiliency is. It’s getting back up after you’ve made a mistake saying, okay, well, that taught me that. So I should try something else, right? And not just saying well, I failed and I’m done. The learning is really important.
Daniella: Definitely. And I love the way that you frame this because it has such an interconnectedness with other people and how working in teamwork and in tandem with people is really critical to making sure that we have a more socially just world, whether it is in health or education. So we’re lucky to have you in that space. And we, this is kind of similar to resiliency, but this phrase that we talk a lot about in higher ed spaces, but also whether it’s politics or education or even public health — imposter syndrome. It’s something that a lot of young professionals experience, the internship or job search process. So do you have any advice for students as they navigate that whether it’s in their first role out of, out of college or you maybe even in their undergraduate experience yet.
Tiffany: So I, I had a ton of imposter syndrome myself. Like I, I was in Indiana kid through and through. And I went to Harvard. Like I had barely been even to the East Coast and I was like, everybody there must be like a brilliant prodigy. I don’t even know how this happened.
And I spent like a solid year of law school just being terrified of my own self, right? Like I was just like, oh, I’m not smart enough to be here. And then I settled down and I realized that there were people who were smarter than me and I don’t have to be the smartest person in the room. And there are people who knew less than me and I had confidence in myself, but it took some time to get there.
I think I heard Michelle Obama say this thing about when you get a seat at the table, use it. So even if you are afraid that they shouldn’t have let you be at the table, you’re at the table, so use it. So even if you’re afraid they had no business letting you in this class, you’re in the class. So whatever and use the energy and the power you’ve got. Because there are a lot of other people who don’t have that opportunity. There are tons of people who don’t even go to college. You’re here. Like so use it. Like Don’t worry about it. There are people who just sort of assumed that they would go to college and didn’t put a lot of thought into it. And they are certainly using the opportunity. So for the people, like people of color are first-generation students who are anxious about that. Like you’re in the same place they are, and they’re using those resources. So why aren’t you using them? So I just think you have to say, Yeah, I’m going to feel insecure. I’m going to feel twitchy. I’m going to feel sometimes like I’m not the smartest in the room or I’m out of my league. I’m here. So I’m going to use everything that’s right here for me.
Daniella: Definitely. And I think it’s really cool that along the way, you’ll be able to seize on these opportunities through finding mentors that maybe either, you know, you’ve worked with in a specific class or on a particular research project, but that see, that the value that you provide with a unique perspective. So thank you so much for bringing that to our attention. And a couple more things for you here would have would you say is that you’re most proud of in your career thus far?
Tiffany: Yeah. Oh, that’s a hard question. You know, I think I am really proud of a lot of the work I did last year, when it relates to COVID and when it relates to racial equity. But picking one thing is super hard because I’m actually super proud of passing the Affordable Care Act back in the day – that was kind of the best thing ever.
But last year there was a crisis rate. And we could see that the challenges were big and people were suffering. And frankly, I got on the phone with some people. They called me, I called them and we said we’re just going to build some things to respond to that.
So for example, we created the first community economic relief fund in the United States to respond to COVID. Us and some other foundations and the United Way of Central Indiana. And it ultimately had like $22 million in it that was focused on like keeping the economic fuel going for our community centers and other non-profits in Indianapolis. And I was really proud of that.
We founded the Indianapolis e-learning Fund, which was focused on ensuring that students in lower income stats could get access to technology that could help them learn during this tricky virtual time. Both the devices and also sort of Wi-Fi and access to those things.
And we created the central Indiana racial equity fund, which was focused on looking at criminal justice issues and other issues that we’re limiting the black community’s to be successful. And what I’m really proud of is like, we, I saw a problem or like my colleagues saw a problem and we got on the phone and we were like, let’s figure out how to solve this. And let’s, let’s just go. And so we moved fast and we, we made a difference in people’s lives because we were just unafraid of like going running right towards the solution and running right towards the problem with this. Is that correct?
Daniella: Yeah, those grassroots mobilizations, I mean, how incredible.
Tiffany: Like talking to people matters a lot. And I think to me in my work, I don’t always know what the community needs, right? So part of my job is just listening and hearing from people. Like this is what the community needs. Like. I’m not an expert on the like, People are an expert in their own lived experience. And then I get to respond to that. And it’s super fun to get to respond to it. And it matters a lot to me. But what matters to me is that I’m driving for what people really need and what they really want as opposed to what I need and what I want. Well, yeah, that is so wonderful.
Daniella: Tiffany, we would love to know about your involvement in the 2024 NBA All-Star.
Tiffany: Yeah, cool!
Daniella: If you could tell us more about that, that part of your life.
Yeah! So Indianapolis was actually originally supposed to get the 2021 NBA All-Star game. So I was on that committee too and we, because of COVID, we actually got 2024 and we are super jazzed about it. It’s gotta be crazy fun, so I recommend everybody go.
One of the things that we’ve been doing, our community service projects all around the state of Indiana. So we’ve been funding the creation of really cool stem labs. We’ve been funding the creation of basketball — like spaces in both urban and rural communities around the state. So it’s actually been like a really cool community service project because we’ve thought about like, not just like how are we going to do this amazing event, but like how are we going to leave legacy projects that are going to make a difference in Indiana for a long time to come.
So that part is super fun. And then I get to go to the NBA All-Star game. So that part is also super fun. And it’s been like a whole collaborative of community leaders in Indianapolis thinking about like how to make this a great experience for the people who come. How to make sure it’s an opportunity to spotlight what makes Indianapolis such a great town. And also, how can we make Indiana better as a state and bring energy around, like come to Indiana this place, is cool.
Daniella: Oh, that’s so fun. What a great coalition of people. I’m glad you have a spot in there and make it incredible.
Tiffany: Yeah, I’m excited. Hopefully I get to meet some famous people.
Daniella: Yes, that would be amazing. And then we would love to know as well, what is your favorite thing to do on campus or a favorite memory?
Tiffany: So my favorite memory is probably not a memory I should share. But that’s okay.
One day I was on campus headed to a class and it was beautiful out and I ran into somebody. And I may be stopped and didn’t go to the class, but I sat outside with somebody and we just talked about philosophical stuff for like hours. And I felt so like free. And so like, uh, like just the ability to like talk about the world in this really thoughtful way with nowhere to be.
So while I should tell you to go to class, but you should definitely go to class. Please go to class.
Like Bloomington is this cool space where you can sit down and just, like, have a conversation for hours about both the biggest in a little of things and not have to stress about like where I need to be and be filled with joy from the people around you.
So like that’s the part I love is the people, right? Like the people of this place are phenomenal.
Yeah, that’s beautiful. I’m so happy to hear that, that’s one of your most incredible memories from IU Bloomington.
Daniella: Was that a preexisting friendship that you had?
Tiffany: It was like, somebody I didn’t know super well. So it was somebody we had a class together and they’re like, hey, and I was like hey, and we just started talking just outside on the grass and talked for hours. It was great.
Daniella: Wow, that really speaks to your life journey and you know how much you love telling people stories and learning and listening from others. And I think all of us can really glean a lot from that. So thank you so much. Yeah, we really appreciate having you on the podcast, Tiffany.
If students have any questions or want to keep up with the amazing ways that you’re changing the world. How would you recommend they kind of follow your story?
Tiffany: Yeah, So first of all, I have a LinkedIn profile, so follow me on LinkedIn or message me on LinkedIn and I’m, I’m a pretty good responder. Can be a little patient. And I am part of the Walter Center Success Network so you can find information about me there. And I am happy to support and talk to students about the journey that I’ve had in my career and at any points on it. I will tell you my schedule is tricky, so just be patient with me. But I know that I wouldn’t have gotten to where I got to you if there weren’t people who invested in me. And so, I take it really seriously that I want to invest in the students who are here at IU. So if anybody hears this podcast in and wants to chat, I encourage you to reach out. I’m happy to share and happy to listen to you.
Daniella: Awesome, thank you so much for your willingness to support students and thank you for sharing your story. You are an incredibly transformational leader and we are just so, so glad to have you in this space with us. So have a, have a great time and the rest of your travels on campus.
Tiffany: Great. Thank you for having me. That was fun. I love it. Of course.